From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:21:13 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098372129 22988 80.91.229.6 (21 Oct 2004 15:22:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 21 17:21:45 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CKel5-0001bW-00 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:21:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CKesX-000236-1w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:29:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CKesO-00022S-PE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:29:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CKesN-00021z-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:29:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CKesN-00021p-KD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:29:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CKeku-0000zn-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:21:32 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CKekc-0005el-P0; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:21:17 -0400 Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-Reply-To: (Kim F. Storm's message of "Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:42:23 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28702 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28702 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> In Gnus, I get buttons displayed like >> [attachment image.jpg] >> >> I can click with the middle button to execute a default operation. >> What I do more frequently is click with the left button, then press a >> key like "o" to indicate the action. Most (but I don't think all) >> actions can be selected with a context menu on the right mouse button, >> but that also means that I have to use a mouse-based file dialog, >> which is far more inconvenient. It is also much faster for me to type >> a single letter than to drag the mouse cursor to the right menu entry. >> >> If clicking mouse-1 on the button would launch the default action, >> this would be far more inconvenient for me. > > I see the problem. Maybe mouse-2 could set the point ? Basically you propose that we interchange button-1 and button-2 on active text areas. If I take packages like preview-latex, we can click on formula images in it. Mouse button 2 gets you the source text, but you can also just mark it by dragging mouse-1, or by clicking mouse-1 on the image, and mouse-3 behind it. Your proposal would mean that I have to click mouse-2 and mouse-3 around the area for marking, or drag mouse-1. > Anyways, nobody would force you to use the mouse-1-follows-link > feature. That's never a good argument. If we want to introduce a new feature, we want to make it as good as possible instead of claiming it is the user's fault anyway if he chooses to activate it. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum