From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: minibuffer-eldef Date: 03 Jun 2004 14:35:50 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040529213132.GA31322@fencepost> <873c5hd35q.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <8765aadbgb.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <20040602071529.GA21505@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086266239 22533 80.91.224.253 (3 Jun 2004 12:37:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 12:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, Miles Bader , wl@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 03 14:36:50 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BVrSj-0004BY-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:36:49 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BVrSj-0007BQ-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:36:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BVrT4-0008H6-42 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:37:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BVrSv-0008FO-Qk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BVrSv-0008Ey-6S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BVrSv-0008Ev-2N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BVrRw-0007WE-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:36:00 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BVrRp-00047t-8S; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:35:53 -0400 Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24472 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24472 Stefan Monnier writes: > > The right way to do this would be to display the default value > > right in the text entry box in a special color. If > > delete-selection-mode is enabled, the natural choice would be to > > just paste the default value into the text entry box and have it > > selected. > > I agree that it would make sense, especially since it is what many > people using delete-selection-mode are already accustomed to. But > it is less general, as can be seen in the recent discussion of M-%: > the default displayed in the prompt shows both `from' and `to' > strings whereas the prompt is only asking the user to enter the > `from' string. I think this "discrepency" doesn't cause the > slightest problem when the default is put in a "(default FOO)" > annotation in the prompt, whereas it would be slightly confusing if > it were put in the text field. So we need to come up with something better. After 21.4 has been released. Enabling minibuffer-electric-default-mode does not appear as a good solution to me after trying it, and so in my opinion enabling it in the current form for 21.4 by default does not make sense: there is little point in subjecting people to the hassle of getting used to a setting that should get changed again soon. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum