From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptydomain.de>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tramp with global-auto-revert-mode.
Date: 14 May 2004 21:26:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5k6ze24jx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3sme2zv18.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>
storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:
> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> >
> > > > Work properly if they are on a different connection. Queue
> > > > them if they are on the same connection.
> > >
> > > Can't queue 'em.
> > >
> > > Scenario:
> > >
> > > file-exist-p -> Tramp -> accept-process-output
> > > <<Now process filters and sentinels and timers can be run>>
> > > One of those async thingies calls
> > > file-readable-p -> Tramp -> ????
> > >
> > > If it's on the same connection Tramp is stuck: its connection is
> > > either busy waiting for some answer from the remote host (which
> > > is OK: we can wait) or busy waiting for accept-process-output to
> > > return so Emacs can react to the remote process's output; but
> > > accept-process-output can't return before file-readable-p is
> > > finished.
> >
> > So file-readable-p calls accept-process-output, too, which means
> > it is effectively queued. Eventually output arrives. The problem
> > is that the output is for a different operation, but the way
> > "concurrency" works in Emacs, the "async thingy" will be the one
> > that is woken up. So whoever calls accept-process-output must be
> > prepared to deal with preprocessing the accepted output
> > sufficiently so that it can use the connection itself. It would
> > appear that pushing the output into some FIFO should do the trick.
> > Everybody that initiates an operation expecting output will call
> > accept-process-output, and then first check whether there is
> > something in the FIFO for it.
>
> How does it know where the output from the previous operation ends
> (or have arrived at all), i.e. how does it know when the output to
> its own command starts?
The output is yours if nobody else requests it. In short, you work
this in the following manner:
(if process-is-busy
(push my-request process-input-queue)
(while (not (member my-request process-output-queue))
(work-on-the-queues)))
And work-on-the-queues basically loops around accept-process-output.
The filter function correlates the output with the currently running
command in the remote shell, writes the results into the
process-output-queue and moves the next material from the front of
process-input-queue into the shell.
> be to have a global remote-busy-p flag that could be tested by
> async handlers doing file operations - and simply do nothing (in the
> present activation) if non-nil, i.e.
>
> (unless remote-busy-p
> ...).
Do nothing? How is the task accomplished then?
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-12 22:54 Tramp with global-auto-revert-mode Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-12 23:26 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-13 23:11 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-13 23:24 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-13 23:46 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 0:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 1:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 1:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 2:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 2:53 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 3:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 4:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 4:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 5:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 19:13 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 21:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 5:01 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 23:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-15 0:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 1:39 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 18:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-15 20:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 23:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 0:41 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 13:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-17 11:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-17 14:20 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 5:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-16 18:11 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 18:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 20:04 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 22:41 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-17 5:21 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-17 12:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-17 15:03 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-17 15:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-18 16:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-18 17:10 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-21 23:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-22 1:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-22 11:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-23 17:21 ` Michael Albinus
2004-05-17 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-15 2:50 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 13:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-15 13:34 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 16:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-15 17:49 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 13:51 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-15 3:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 18:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 21:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 2:31 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 5:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 11:36 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 12:06 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 17:54 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 19:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 19:26 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2004-05-14 20:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 21:00 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 21:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 22:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 23:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-15 18:33 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 22:11 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 22:57 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 22:47 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 23:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 23:38 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 22:50 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 23:00 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 20:40 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 23:26 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-15 16:19 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-15 17:01 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-15 17:26 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-15 18:18 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-16 14:11 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-15 18:33 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-16 14:13 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-17 1:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-17 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-18 3:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 20:32 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 21:35 ` Michael Albinus
2004-05-15 16:22 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 20:29 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 21:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 0:54 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 2:13 ` Luc Teirlinck
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