From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:45:45 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098449176 16189 80.91.229.6 (22 Oct 2004 12:46:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 22 14:46:07 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CKyo3-0004I4-00 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:46:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CKyvY-0004AL-3s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CKyvO-0004AD-Kx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:53:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CKyvO-0004A1-5f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:53:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CKyvO-00049y-2n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:53:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CKynp-0005vo-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:45:53 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CKyne-00027p-AW; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:45:42 -0400 Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-Reply-To: (Kim F. Storm's message of "Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:10:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28726 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28726 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> I am not claiming that this is the ultimate reason or whatever, I am >> just pointing out that in this case it would be problematic. > > My mouse-1 patch only sets in with links that have mouse-face. > > Why do preview-latex images need to have mouse-face property ? > Images can have mouse-2 bindings even without that. But the mouse-face property is the normal way to indicate that using mouse-2 will do something different from pasting. >> In addition, we have to be aware that clickable fields are usually >> implemented with keymaps. And that means that there is no way to >> magically change all buttons in all applications: it is a >> convention rather than an API. If we want to change to a different >> convention, we first need to define an API where the current >> convention is accessible to outside packages, then wait for a few >> releases with the old convention in place, and then try changing >> the default and weather the inconsistency storm from packages that >> have not yet adhered to the API telling it what mouse buttons to >> use. > > If mouse-1 has a non-standard binding on a link, my patch obeys that > binding. So what? preview-latex images don't have a non-standard binding for mouse-1. So I am citing it as an example that will cause trouble and requires a migration plan instead of a sudden change. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum