From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:20:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87y8cx4b3e.fsf@jurta.org> <87hdj9s0yy.fsf@orebokech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111224392 17127 80.91.229.2 (19 Mar 2005 09:26:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 19 10:26:31 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCaDz-0008SO-8V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:26:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCaUd-0006zr-U2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:43:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCaRp-0006vF-RQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:40:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCaRk-0006ug-Dj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:40:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCaRd-0006tY-Ob for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:40:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DCa8f-0000ho-Pb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:20:57 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DCa8Y-0003gh-Nj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:20:51 -0500 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:09:09 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34765 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34765 Richard Stallman writes: > Now that Richard has changed M-g to be a prefix key, can we > implement this plan? > > I would rather put this aside until after the release. Discussing the full population of this binding, I might agree here. However, part of this proposal was due to C-x ` being very burdensome to type on many international keyboards. I don't think it makes sense to introduce M-g as a prefix without populating at least those slots which have made this proposal compelling. So I think that the next release should at the very least contain the (rather uncontentious) M-g M-p, M-g p, M-g M-n and M-g n bindings. All the rest is nice in various degrees, but those seem rather essential. > I would like a small group to organize to make a plan > for what to do with M-g, and discuss the question outside > of this list. Would those who want to do this please do so? I'd be willing to participate in such an off-list discussion if it proves necessary or beneficial. Let's raise the bar by demanding that anybody discussing it should also be willing to implement his proposals including documentation. Since we are talking about functionality that seems quite convenient to the average user, this includes the help sheets which probably should be checked for accuracy before release, anyhow, requiring speakers of different languages. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum