From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: info inconsistency about "Shell Commands in Dired" Date: 27 Aug 2004 19:25:32 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040821.040855.00470268.jet@gyve.org> <200408212249.i7LMncn06287@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200408252236.i7PMa3913735@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200408262116.i7QLGav25013@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093627563 10292 80.91.224.253 (27 Aug 2004 17:26:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jet@gyve.org, Luc Teirlinck , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 27 19:25:56 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C0kU8-0000zl-00 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:25:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0kYo-0000lW-8F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0kYg-0000l5-Tl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:30:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0kYg-0000kf-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:30:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0kYf-0000kO-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C0kTs-0003bl-Oo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:25:40 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C0kTl-0002d7-UN; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:25:34 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26581 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26581 Richard Stallman writes: > My '' suggestion wanted to implement a similar trick for the opposite > problem, where one wants ? to be expanded without having to surround > it by whitespace. > > I see. > > But I am not so sure about my suggestion any more. Some users might > currently be using ?'' or *'' instead of the suggested ?"" or *"" to > prevent expansion by Emacs and insert an isolated ? or * as a > wildcard. > > We need not hesitate to make incompatible changes in little > interactive commands like this. The question is what interface is > best to use. Bind * to insert a text-propertied (and thus recognizable and copy&pastable) x character with the display property of "". If people really need * itself, they can insert it using C-q *. Other keybindings might be imaginable. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum