From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows Date: 25 Aug 2004 09:48:06 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1B3ACCFD5694A94DBA4E231402B0E9ED2462CA@mucmail1.sdm.de> <76C9DE70-F613-11D8-B60C-00039390AB82@mac.com> <7F3348D4-F632-11D8-B60C-00039390AB82@mac.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093420258 3473 80.91.224.253 (25 Aug 2004 07:50:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Lennart Borgman ' , "Berndl, Klaus" , 'Dhruva Krishnamurthy ' , Stefan Monnier , 'Emacs Devel ' Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 25 09:50:49 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BzsYT-00075P-00 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:50:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bzsd0-0003fR-QB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:55:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bzsaj-0002ix-Aw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bzsah-0002h6-DV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bzsag-0002f6-Vl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BzsVs-0003xr-OD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BzsVr-0003KT-HO; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:48:08 -0400 Original-To: Steven Tamm In-Reply-To: <7F3348D4-F632-11D8-B60C-00039390AB82@mac.com> Original-Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26481 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26481 Steven Tamm writes: > My point was not to have an adjective, nor as a comparison to XEmacs. > There is only one Emacs. However, it seems to be a style among many > applications to group by manufacturer. Either with: > "C:\program files\Microsoft Office" > "C:\program files\Microsoft Visual Studio" > "C:\program files\apache group\apache" > "C:\program files\Mozilla Firefox" That's not a grouping by manufacturer (apart from "apache group"). The problem is that those are the proper names: you could not hope to trademark a generic term like "Office" or "Word" (well, Microsoft is still keeping up its "Windows" trademark with a somewhat expensive bully&settle strategy, but that's a bit of an exception). I'd not expect many people starting to use "Emacs" as a generic term, however. > Some people on the list may express a preference to do the same thing > either with: > "C:\program files\GNU Emacs" or > "C:\program files\GNU\Emacs" or > "C:\program files\Emacs". That leaves no sensible name for XEmacs. The difference between the two is not GNU and non-GNU, and "GNU XEmacs" would be seriously misleading to other people. > Others may think it's a bad idea. I do. > The point was not to distinguish flavours of Emacs; there is only > one Visual Studio and only one Firefox. It is their choice how to call their directories. > It's a stylistic decision that should be made explicitly, as opposed > to being stumbled upon. Well, I would not call quoting the Emacs FAQ on this exactly stumbling. > It seems based on the feedback (or is that smackdown) that > %PROGRAM_FILES%\Emacs is the location that causes the least > discomfort. > > Right? Right. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum