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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: 'Lennart Borgman ' <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>,
	"Berndl, Klaus" <klaus.berndl@sdm.de>,
	'Dhruva Krishnamurthy ' <list@dhruva.fastmail.fm>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	'Emacs Devel ' <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows
Date: 25 Aug 2004 09:48:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5acwj1ww9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7F3348D4-F632-11D8-B60C-00039390AB82@mac.com>

Steven Tamm <steventamm@mac.com> writes:

> My point was not to have an adjective, nor as a comparison to XEmacs.
> There is only one Emacs.  However, it seems to be a style among many
> applications to group by manufacturer.  Either with:
> "C:\program files\Microsoft Office"
> "C:\program files\Microsoft Visual Studio"
> "C:\program files\apache group\apache"
> "C:\program files\Mozilla Firefox"

That's not a grouping by manufacturer (apart from "apache group").
The problem is that those are the proper names: you could not hope to
trademark a generic term like "Office" or "Word" (well, Microsoft is
still keeping up its "Windows" trademark with a somewhat expensive
bully&settle strategy, but that's a bit of an exception).

I'd not expect many people starting to use "Emacs" as a generic term,
however.

> Some people on the list may express a preference to do the same thing
> either with:
> "C:\program files\GNU Emacs" or
> "C:\program files\GNU\Emacs" or
> "C:\program files\Emacs".

That leaves no sensible name for XEmacs.  The difference between the
two is not GNU and non-GNU, and "GNU XEmacs" would be seriously
misleading to other people.

> Others may think it's a bad idea.

I do.

> The point was not to distinguish flavours of Emacs; there is only
> one Visual Studio and only one Firefox.

It is their choice how to call their directories.

> It's a stylistic decision that should be made explicitly, as opposed
> to being stumbled upon.

Well, I would not call quoting the Emacs FAQ on this exactly stumbling.

> It seems based on the feedback (or is that smackdown) that
> %PROGRAM_FILES%\Emacs is the location that causes the least
> discomfort.
> 
> Right?

Right.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-25  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-24  7:04 Emacs Installer for MS Windows Berndl, Klaus
2004-08-24 17:35 ` Steven Tamm
2004-08-24 18:08   ` David Kastrup
2004-08-24 21:20     ` Steven Tamm
2004-08-24 21:35       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-25  1:02         ` Steven Tamm
2004-08-25  2:38           ` Stefan
2004-08-25  4:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-25  7:48           ` David Kastrup [this message]
2004-08-24 21:55       ` David Kastrup
2004-08-25  0:14         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25  0:24           ` David Kastrup
2004-08-25  4:41     ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-25  7:56       ` David Kastrup
2004-08-25 22:40         ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-25 23:03           ` David Kastrup
2004-08-26  7:04             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-08-26  7:56               ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-04 21:42 Robert Anderson
2004-08-02 22:17 Lennart Borgman
2004-08-03  4:41 ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-08-04 20:37   ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-04 20:55     ` David Kastrup
2004-08-05  6:51       ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-05  6:55         ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-05  7:26         ` David Kastrup
2004-08-05  8:18         ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-08-05 14:27           ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-06  4:17             ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-08-06 13:43             ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-06 13:56               ` David Kastrup
2004-08-06 17:07                 ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-27 21:26                   ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-06 15:39               ` Frank Schmitt
2004-08-07 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-23 19:21             ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-23 19:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-24 18:13                 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-24 18:33                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-24 19:31                     ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-24 19:58                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-25  0:06                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25  2:51                           ` Stefan
2004-08-26 18:27                             ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 18:35                               ` David Kastrup
2004-08-26 21:00                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-26 21:41                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25  4:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-25  7:09                             ` Peter 'Luna' Runestig
2004-08-25 16:01                               ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25 18:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-26 15:17                             ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-08-26 16:09                               ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 16:21                                 ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-08-26 18:34                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-26 16:29                               ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2004-08-26 16:58                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 17:40                                   ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-08-26 18:38                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-27  6:52                                       ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2004-08-26 18:42                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 19:41                                       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-26 22:17                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-27  9:22                                         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-27 13:20                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-27 13:38                                             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-27 15:08                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-27 15:24                                           ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2004-08-27 15:42                                           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-28  1:36                                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-27 15:16                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-27 15:47                                           ` David Kastrup
2004-08-28  1:36                                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-27 15:44                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-27 16:14                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 15:51                         ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-08-26 16:52                           ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-26 19:44                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-26 19:49                             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-23 19:59               ` David Kastrup
2004-08-24  5:37               ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-08-24 16:33                 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-08-24 21:02               ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-24 21:09                 ` David Kastrup
2004-08-25  4:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-25 16:21                   ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-25 18:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-25  4:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-05 11:18         ` Paul Pogonyshev
2004-08-05 15:33           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-04 21:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-04 22:12       ` Lennart Borgman
2004-08-05  2:05       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-08-05  2:40         ` David Kastrup

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