From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: @#$! new behavior of C-b & C-f in i-search Date: 20 May 2004 09:29:14 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <86k6za1afm.fsf@rumba.de.uu.net> <871xlfaat6.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1085038636 17344 80.91.224.253 (20 May 2004 07:37:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 07:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Karl Eichwalder Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu May 20 09:37:10 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BQi74-0004f7-00 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 09:37:10 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BQi74-0006eK-00 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 09:37:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BQi6K-0006Bh-G1 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:36:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BQi6E-0006AA-LH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:36:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BQi5i-00060K-Bw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BQhzT-0004uW-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:29:19 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BQhzS-0004nS-2e; Thu, 20 May 2004 03:29:19 -0400 Original-To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <871xlfaat6.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23765 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23765 Juri Linkov writes: > Karl Eichwalder writes: > > "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > >> The feature itself is exellent. But I still have trouble with the > >> keybindings. I never knew I used `C-b' & `C-f' so often, but I do, > >> and the habit is very hard to break. > > > > yes, but I think it is more important that having found the first > > occurance of the (beginning of) string you can press several C-f in a > > row to extent the search string; that less error prone than being force > > to enter all the different letters: k-i-n-d-e-r-g-a-r-t-e-n. Yes, I > > know, you can complete the search word using C-w; but often, you are not > > interested in the complete word and thus you cannot make use of C-w. > > There is no doubt that functions to modify the search > string character-wise should have dedicated key bindings. > But it became apparent that C-f and C-b are quite intrusive. > Luckily, C-M-w and C-M-y are no less convenient to type, Disagree. On many keyboards you have no Meta key, and even on those that do, you need two hands to reach that combination. I think that the search string modifying is more important feature than search exiting via C-f and C-b. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum