From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cc-mode adds newlines Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:14:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20041119231343.GA19603@apps.cwi.nl> <20041121020850.GA20436@apps.cwi.nl> <20041121113801.GC20436@apps.cwi.nl> <20041121130022.GH20436@apps.cwi.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1101042889 31856 80.91.229.6 (21 Nov 2004 13:14:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jari Aalto , Alan Mackenzie , snogglethorpe@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 21 14:14:42 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CVrY9-0006E6-00 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:14:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CVrh7-000453-2L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:23:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CVrgw-00044y-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CVrgw-00044m-46 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CVrgv-00044j-Vw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CVrXr-0002hu-3i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:14:23 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CVrWF-0001oz-VQ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:12:44 -0500 Original-To: Andries Brouwer In-Reply-To: <20041121130022.GH20436@apps.cwi.nl> (Andries Brouwer's message of "Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:00:22 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:30164 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:30164 Andries Brouwer writes: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 09:53:07PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > >> > in their .emacs. And thousands of others were bitten. >> >> There's the difference, of course -- there probably aren't more >> than a handful of people who object to Emacs making sure their .c >> files end in a newline, and I expect their are far more people who >> _like_ the feature. Emacs defaults are intended to be useful for >> the majority. > > Aha. So you left your previous sidetrack and now come to a new > possible objection, namely the one that having a > c-require-final-newline different from require-final-newline is > useful for the majority. Is that really what you believe? For what it's worth, that is what I believe. And obviously it is what the people responsible for the current behavior believe. Emacs is not written by lunatics randomly changing code and seeing whether people complain, even though you seem to have that impression. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum