From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menu again. Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:28:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200503241500.j2OF08727332@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200503241555.j2OFtgu28133@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111794129 19974 80.91.229.2 (25 Mar 2005 23:42:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 26 00:42:08 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEyRH-0008Am-RB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:42:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEygh-000156-FR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:57:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DEydL-0008FG-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:54:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DEyd8-00088C-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:54:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEyd6-00085C-4c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:54:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DEyEV-0000eM-0z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:28:51 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DEyEU-0000PT-D6; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:28:50 -0500 Original-To: storm@cua.dk In-Reply-To: (Kim F. Storm's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:42:24 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35178 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35178 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Luc Teirlinck writes: > >> I do not have the time to keep answering all the arguments you have >> already repeated 1001 times and which already have been answered before. > .. without reaching consensus on the issue!!! > > > Can we take a poll on this issue and get done with it? Sounds sensible. The problem is that your poll is "loaded": the choices are not independent. I'll try fixing it: > Please send me your votes on the following questions: > > 1) Rename Options=>Show/hide to Options=>Appearence ? > [with suitable minor adjustments on the sub-menu] > > [ ] Yes [ ] No > > 2) Move Options=>Blinking Cursor to Appearence submenu? > > [ ] Yes [ ] No This implies that 1) was answered with "Yes". So let us replace it with: 2a) If Appearance is the menu name, move Options=>Blinking Cursor there? [ ] Yes [ ] No 2b) If Show/Hide is the menu name, move Options=>Blinking Cursor there? [ ] Yes [ ] No > 3) Fix Options=>Save Options to offer to save unsaved Customize > as suggested by David (below)? > > [ ] Yes [ ] No > > > ... that "Save Options" would prompt and offer to save also > > unsaved Options set by "Customize", making it possible to > > switch the order of options into the customary one while giving > > the user a less subtle hint about what happens. This mixes two questions/suggestions. So this better be: 3) Fix Options=>Save Options to offer to save unsaved Customize as suggested by David (below)? [ ] Yes [ ] No > ... that "Save Options" would prompt and offer to save also > unsaved Options set by "Customize". 4a) If 3 gets implemented, swap the order of "Save Options" and "Customize Emacs" to have "Save Options" at the bottom? [ ] Yes [ ] No 4b) If 3 does not get implemented, still swap the order of "Save Options" and "Customize Emacs" to have "Save Options" at the bottom? [ ] Yes [ ] No This is a bit more cumbersome, but I think it is less loaded. > I'll count and report the votes in 5 days from now. Please do. Not that I had not done a similar thing already... -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum