From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: APOP support in movemail Date: 09 Nov 2003 14:01:31 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <2914-Thu06Nov2003114247+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <3405-Sat08Nov2003183910+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068383101 4622 80.91.224.253 (9 Nov 2003 13:05:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 09 14:04:59 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIpFS-0003jK-00 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:04:58 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIpFS-0007wm-00 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:04:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AIqCm-0005GX-3G for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:06:16 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AIqCW-00058z-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:06:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AIqBw-0004e0-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:05:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.226.11.173] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AIq9m-00047n-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:03:10 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hA9D1XBo004382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:01:33 +0100 Original-Received: (from dak@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hA9D1WJi004378; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:01:32 +0100 Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17734 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17734 "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > Continuing to support movemail in Emacs only because it works on > Windows ... > > When you refer to `Windows' do you mean the most common windowing > system in my experience, which by linquistic shortening is what my > friends and I refer to as `Windows', namely X Windows? Or do you > refer to some other windowing system that we have the freedom to > work on if we choose, such as Fresno? Or do you refer to a > windowing system controlled by an organization that forbids any of > us to work on it if we wanted to? > > If the latter, please always tell this, so we don't have to waste > our time thinking about a system we are forbidden to work on. Could we stop playing semantic games? For some people Microsoft Windows is the relevant infrastructure they have to work with, and there is no purpose in willfully denying them access to freedoms that could be available to them. Just like the street towards your house is relevant infrastructure to you which you are not allowed to modify. We need not feel compelled to work on other's streets, but there is no point in sabotaging them actively and making maintenance for those people harder than it already is on purpose. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum