From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: typo in frame.el Date: 10 Apr 2004 01:17:06 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081552862 19521 80.91.224.253 (9 Apr 2004 23:21:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 23:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Simon Josefsson , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 10 01:20:56 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BC5Iu-0006pb-00 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:20:56 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BC5It-0003nW-00 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:20:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BC5Hx-00068N-F7 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:19:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BC5Gy-0004i3-Mb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:18:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BC5FP-0002WH-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:17:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BC5F9-0002Bo-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BC5F6-00089V-OV; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:17:01 -0400 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21424 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21424 "Drew Adams" writes: > Here's what I wrote earlier: > > > At the very worst, someone unacquainted with the meaning of "iff" > > will likely interpret it as "if" (and as an benign typo), so there > > is no harm done in using it: (the most important) half of its > > meaning is always conveyed. That's different from what I wrote: I said that non-matheticians/programmers/logicians use "if" in the meaning "iff" more often than otherwise, so they get more than half of its meaning. Anyway, in this case, the doc string is unclear anyway. It should be Turn cursor blink mode on if ARG is positive, off otherwise. The problem is that the "iff" merely implies "Don't turn cursor blink mode on if ARG is not positive" but that's different from turning it off. A programmer will probably make the right connection because it is cool to do so, but a true mathematician will still get confused by this wannabe mathematician jingo. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum