From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest next week Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:47:57 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <87y6x4ue2u.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87ocxqnnb6.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <877i4dk1rx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233474503 20750 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2009 07:48:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 01 08:49:37 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTX5E-00063a-Sc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:49:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59116 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTX3w-0002n2-Bm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:48:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTX3r-0002mZ-6z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:48:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTX3p-0002lu-I1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49748 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTX3p-0002lp-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:49771) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTX3o-0003Ch-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:48:08 -0500 Original-Received: from ntp.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2] helo=mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTX3k-0006gR-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:48:05 -0500 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F792C46; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:47:57 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108505 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:46:59 +0900, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu said: >>> How do you recognize the current status and perspective of the C-g >>> issue in the Cocoa/GNUstep port? The changes made so far weren't >>> "nontrivial", indeed. But I meant by "nontrivial" the still >>> remaining "Feval call in menu bar activation". Actually, menu bar >>> tracking itself is problematic inside read_socket_hook if the >>> Cocoa/GNUstep port is trying to follow what the Carbon port does >>> with respect to C-g.) >> Work on this may still proceed during the pretest; we are not yet >> in a hard code freeze. It is not serious enough to delay the start >> of the pretest. > Of course, it's up to you maintainers whether to start pretest at > this stage. But I dare to say it's a serious issue from my > experience. If you want to start the pretest soon, I suggest putting off the inclusion of the Cocoa/GNUstep port until Emacs 23.2 (or later). In particular, the GNUstep port doesn't have enough quality to start pretest. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp