From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: John Higgins <zos156@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Emacs 23 Mac port
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:53:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wlpr03y87e.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FACFEE9F-B0FB-4701-A57D-C663CEFC51E2@gmail.com>
>>>>> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:28:25 -0400, David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com> said:
>> uses Cocoa and it can be compiled as 64bit executable.
> I see a lot of Carbon in there, unlike in the NS port.
As long as a program runs as a 64-bit binary, which implies its GUI
part is implemented with Cocoa, I don't think the (selective) use of
Carbon is problematic. If it were, then Apple would have excluded it
from the 64-bit version of Carbon like they did for its GUI part.
Sometimes Carbon is useful for finer control, and sometimes it is
necessary to provide compatibility functions for older versions of Mac
OS X where Cocoa hadn't provided enough replacements.
Not using Carbon would be meaningful for the NS port, because it has
to support GNUstep, too. But for 64-bit GUI Mac programs, it does not
make sense to prefer Cocoa-only to a hybrid of Carbon and Cocoa.
People would neither call Safari a Carbon app nor complain its use for
the reason that the program is linked with the Carbon framework.
YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp
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Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-20 11:02 Carbon: resizing a frame on wrong "space" David Reitter
2008-02-21 1:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-28 20:26 ` Harald Maier
2008-02-29 0:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29 2:40 ` William Xu
2008-02-29 3:02 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29 3:10 ` William Xu
2008-02-29 3:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29 4:55 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-29 8:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-02 4:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-07 3:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-11-27 11:37 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-01-26 4:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-03-27 0:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-05-13 3:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-06-27 5:58 ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port (was Re: Carbon: resizing a frame on wrong "space") YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-03 2:55 ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-07 20:41 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-29 0:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-31 17:38 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2009-09-01 5:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 2:18 ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port and Emacs 23 Mac port YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 7:47 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05 8:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 11:27 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05 12:15 ` David Reitter
2009-09-05 12:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-05 14:35 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05 17:28 ` David Reitter
2009-09-08 18:45 ` David Reitter
2009-09-08 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-09 0:26 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 8:03 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-08 10:38 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-09 1:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-10 10:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-11 18:11 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-27 4:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-01 4:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-09 22:08 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-31 11:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-02 1:27 ` Leo
2010-01-02 4:21 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-02 10:19 ` Leo
2010-01-02 15:26 ` Leo
2010-01-02 20:56 ` Leo
2010-01-03 2:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-03 11:07 ` Leo
2010-01-12 8:16 ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12 9:03 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-12 9:28 ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12 10:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-12 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-12 17:21 ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12 21:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-13 7:39 ` Jan D.
2010-01-13 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-12 23:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-13 7:43 ` Jan D.
2010-01-04 2:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-30 4:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-27 9:19 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-03 2:26 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-03 14:55 ` Leo
2010-04-03 16:07 ` Leo
2010-04-04 5:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-06 13:09 ` Leo
2010-04-20 9:08 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-20 13:07 ` Leo
2010-04-28 8:57 ` Leo
2010-04-30 1:21 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-04 2:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-04 3:10 ` Leo
2010-05-05 1:09 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-05 15:58 ` David Reitter
2010-05-06 1:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-06 16:34 ` covici
2010-05-07 0:33 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-06 17:31 ` David Reitter
2010-06-06 18:48 ` John Higgins
2010-06-06 21:28 ` David Reitter
2010-06-07 0:53 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [this message]
2010-06-11 21:27 ` Daniel Colascione
2010-11-16 1:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-16 14:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 13:44 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-17 14:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 17:00 ` David Reitter
2010-05-09 4:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-29 8:14 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-06-26 3:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-31 5:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-31 11:36 ` covici
2010-08-05 19:15 ` David Reitter
2010-09-27 8:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-09-27 9:24 ` Leo
2010-11-10 8:50 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-14 21:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2010-11-15 1:48 ` Leo
2010-11-15 1:52 ` covici
2010-11-15 7:03 ` Chad Brown
2010-11-15 15:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 21:49 ` ken manheimer
2010-11-18 14:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-01 3:34 ` Leo
2010-12-01 10:43 ` Leo
2010-12-02 10:01 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-02 14:52 ` Leo
2010-12-03 4:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-03 6:34 ` Leo
2010-12-12 4:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-01-15 10:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-02-01 9:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-02-15 8:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-03-10 6:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-07-23 3:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-07-26 11:07 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-06 5:55 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-06 11:48 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-08-06 13:00 ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08 0:08 ` Alp Aker
2011-08-08 3:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-08 4:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-08 9:48 ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08 13:02 ` David Reitter
2011-08-08 16:14 ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08 12:59 ` David Reitter
2011-08-12 16:57 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-08-27 0:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-09-01 0:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-02 12:30 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-06 19:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-07 0:27 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-07 10:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-17 1:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-27 2:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-11-28 10:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-11-28 12:06 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-29 18:51 ` Jan Djärv
2011-11-28 14:58 ` Xu Xin
2012-01-15 6:07 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-15 17:29 ` Xu Xin
2012-01-31 6:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-31 15:57 ` Xu Xin
2012-01-31 19:01 ` John Wiegley
2010-03-13 0:16 ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port and " YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-03-15 18:12 ` Giovanni Lanzani
2010-03-16 0:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-01-16 11:32 emacs user
2012-01-16 13:01 ` Leo
2012-01-17 0:49 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 3:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 10:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
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