From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest next week Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:35:27 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <877i4dk1rx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233387355 29164 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2009 07:35:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 31 08:37:09 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTAPa-00088K-GU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:37:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52442 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTAOI-0000mi-0A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:35:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTAOC-0000lW-Cg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:35:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTAOA-0000kB-PO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:35:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37662 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTAOA-0000k4-Gp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:35:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:32493) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTAO8-0002Iq-5p; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:35:36 -0500 Original-Received: from ntp.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2] helo=mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTAO4-0008D4-2Z; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:35:32 -0500 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F252C49; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:35:27 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108448 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:44:22 -0500, Richard M Stallman said: > If fixing this will require major changes, that may be a reason to > delay the pretest -- if someone is willing to working on these major > changes right away. In the platforms other than the Cocoa/GNUstep port, menu bar is uniformly activated by the x_activate_menubar call in kbd_buffer_get_event, which is called from read_char. However, the Cocoa/GNUstep port activates the menu bar and starts mouse tracking in the context of read_socket_hook, which is supposed to be called from fairly random states of the Lisp interpreter. (That port currently calls read_socket_hook only from limited locations, and that makes this problem obscured and the C-g handling improper.) I think this difference becomes a major obstacle if that port is planning to solve the C-g issue during the pretest period by following the strategies that are used in some existing platforms. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp