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From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Subject: Re: Display performance degradation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:06:14 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wlk4wlasm1.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B2A5F92.9090008@swipnet.se>

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>>>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:42:58 +0100, Jan Dj^[.A^[Ndrv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> said:

>>> For example, if a new font is added or if /etc/font.conf is
>>> changed, Emacs must be restarted because caches prevents Emacs
>>> from noticing the change.
>> 
>> The problem of extremely slow display is the bigger problem than
>> it.
>> 

> How much is extremely, do you have figures?  I haven't noticed any change, 
> maybe it only manifests itself for certain locales.

I can notice a clear difference on Ubuntu 9.10 with some additions for
Japanese support, running on MacBook Air (the bug reporter output is
at the end).

Steps to reproduce:

  1. emacs -Q
  2. C-u C-h t j RET
  3. Keep pressing C-v

Then scrolling looks like "waving".  The font used for displaying
Japanese characters is

  xft:-unknown-VL ^[$B%4%7%C%/^[(B-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1
  (The above Japanese word means "Gothic")

I think it's not noticeable with the tutorial in English (C-u C-h t a
RET in Step 2).  And on some other system such as X11 on Mac OS X
10.5, I found the difference minor.

				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp

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  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: ja_JP.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

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  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-18  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-17  2:49 Display performance degradation YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-17  7:39 ` Jan D.
2009-12-17 20:08   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-18 16:47     ` Jan Djärv
2009-12-18 21:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-02 11:05         ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-02 11:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-02 14:31             ` Jan Djärv
2009-12-17 12:24 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-17 14:43   ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-18  3:53     ` Miles Bader
2009-12-17 16:42   ` Jan Djärv
2009-12-18  3:06     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [this message]
2009-12-18  5:46     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-19  2:56       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-19 10:00         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-20  6:27           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-21  1:17         ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-21  2:11           ` Miles Bader
2009-12-21  2:31             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-21  3:05               ` Miles Bader
2009-12-21  3:08                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-21  3:44                   ` Miles Bader
2009-12-21  3:54                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-21  4:16                       ` Miles Bader
2009-12-21  4:18                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-06 19:46 ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-07  8:26   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu

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