From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes 2009-07-15/16 in branch? Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:10:41 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <4A692E0A.9060108@gnu.org> <4A6E0A8E.3030407@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248761476 29311 80.91.229.12 (28 Jul 2009 06:11:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: adrian.b.robert@gmail.com, jasonr@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 28 08:11:08 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MVftz-0005HB-91 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:11:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40683 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MVfty-0002Ch-67 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MVftq-0002CG-ST for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MVftl-0002Br-Pa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54293 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MVftl-0002Bo-J4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:53 -0400 Original-Received: from ntp.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]:61665 helo=mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MVfth-0005pc-OS; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:10:50 -0400 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F20E2C43; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:10:42 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4A6E0A8E.3030407@harpegolden.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113272 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:14:06 +0100, David De La Harpe Golden said: > But if I was doing that in-emacs alphablending (not saying I will > successfully, just if...), I personally would not use the peculiar > NS chosen syntax for colors with alpha values. I'd probably prefer > to have separate float face properties, foreground-alpha and > background-alpha, to allow me to continue to use named X11 colors > i.e. background: "midnightblue" background-alpha: 0.5 > (yes, I suppose it would be possible to support both external and > in-color-name alphas, messily. But if I was doing that, I'm still > not keen on the NS chosen syntax. Note how css and x11 both nowadays > user separated values e.g. rgb(r, g, b) or rgb:r/g/b ) IIUC, neither Carbon nor Cocoa defines the standard textual representation formats of colors. So I think Emacs on such platforms should adopt some other standards (e.g., X11 or maybe CSS) like in the W32 or Carbon port rather than inventing new own formats as in the NS port. Own formats does not enhance interchangeability in any ways. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp