From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest next week Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:59:16 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <87y6x4ue2u.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87ocxqnnb6.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <877i4dk1rx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87hc3ens4h.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233550785 20042 80.91.229.12 (2 Feb 2009 04:59:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 04:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 06:00:59 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTqvU-00035U-Bz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:00:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55029 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTquB-0004KU-Uh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:59:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTqu1-0004El-RN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:59:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTqu0-0004Cv-2v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:59:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34788 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTqtz-0004Ch-PK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:59:19 -0500 Original-Received: from ntp.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]:62809 helo=mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTqtz-0001kB-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:59:19 -0500 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA062C44; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:59:17 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87hc3ens4h.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108564 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:34:06 -0500, Chong Yidong said: >> If you want to start the pretest soon, I suggest putting off the >> inclusion of the Cocoa/GNUstep port until Emacs 23.2 (or later). >> In particular, the GNUstep port doesn't have enough quality to >> start pretest. > That would be counter-productive. Consider the worst-case scenario > of keeping the Cocoa port: suppose that, just before the 23.1 > release, the port remains as irretrievably broken as you make it out > to be. In that case, we can disable it by changing the build > system, and mark it as experimental/hackers-only. So nothing is > lost by keeping the port (and I am optimistic that it will not come > to that). OK. Agreed except for the last parenthesis in the sense that I have no idea how to solve the remaining problem without changing the current design drastically. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp