From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:23:11 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <87r4s68rr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83A41E83-79C8-4490-966B-CD224041E840@gmail.com> <6BC9F752-C724-4C3D-B2B9-088597A57C3E@gmail.com> <878ve943r8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87obn3zyw2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6046815D-AE04-410F-9917-AA29683213C3@gmail.com> <874noj3fiq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8670F104-1F14-4A63-A78D-50738BB2E826@gmail.com> <6156B3BD-C9C2-4407-A76D-427C3B2B14A6@swipnet.se> <871uejjp99.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0F54C5F9-4CB4-40D1-86DC-02387F70F49F@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356308611 20263 80.91.229.3 (24 Dec 2012 00:23:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Adrian Robert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 24 01:23:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmvpa-00065c-LJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:23:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42983 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmvpM-0001wS-Bs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:23:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmvpE-0001vi-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:23:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmvp9-0007fY-EZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:23:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]:52181) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmvp8-0007f8-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:23:19 -0500 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BF5C055D; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:23:11 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <0F54C5F9-4CB4-40D1-86DC-02387F70F49F@swipnet.se> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 133.82.132.2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155833 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:50:18 +0100, Jan Dj=E4rv = said: > I looked at the Mac port font code and it uses Carbon. That means > that we still have to keep the current backend around for GNUStep. > So there is no gain in bringing it in w.r.t. maintenance, quite the > opposite. The font backend driver for the Mac port actually uses C APIs, such as Core Foundation, Core Graphics, and Core Text, all of which are also available on iOS but not on GNUstep (though there are several attempts to support them). Anyway, they are not usually called "Carbon". YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp