From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes 2009-07-15/16 in branch? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:53:46 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <4A692E0A.9060108@gnu.org> <633A5994-67EB-4A21-AD99-3359CB5D6D65@Princeton.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248940454 14524 80.91.229.12 (30 Jul 2009 07:54:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 30 09:54:07 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MWQSk-0000zG-Gt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:54:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44494 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWQSk-0005ZL-1G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:54:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWQSf-0005Yj-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWQSa-0005Wu-SD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49674 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWQSa-0005Wr-Pf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:53:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:13730) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MWQSY-0007BR-18; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from ntp.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2] helo=mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MWQSW-0007yS-Bi; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE42E2C45; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:53:46 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Detected-Operating-System: by mx20.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113383 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:13:58 -0400, Richard Stallman said: > We should remove the background transparency feature from 23.1 and > implement it for multiple platforms in a future release. Maintainers, shouldn't you explain why you released Emacs 23.1 without removing the Cocoa-only background transparent feature? I've explained reasons why it should be removed in so many aspects. But I've never heard of logical reasons from you. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp