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From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: carbon build hangs on startup
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:59:36 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wl4ph25k9j.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ir5i1fgu.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:56:49 -0700, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) said:

YAMAMOTO> Of course it's up to you whether to make such a plea.  But
YAMAMOTO> keep in mind that developers' time and effort for multi-tty
YAMAMOTO> and Unicode support on the Carbon port might be wasted if
YAMAMOTO> the Cocoa/GNUStep port becomes good enough for Emacs 23.  I
YAMAMOTO> don't think it's a good idea to invest them in catching up
YAMAMOTO> with the trunk NOW.

YAMAMOTO> The situation is different from that of pre-22: we have a
YAMAMOTO> brand-new first stable release version running on the Mac
YAMAMOTO> native window system and ordinary Mac users don't need to
YAMAMOTO> use the CVS version, there's an alternative, and the next
YAMAMOTO> major release does not happen too soon.

> So, you're saying that there will be a non-X11 version of Emacs for
> OSX in the works, even though it's not usable just yet?  Do you have
> an idea of when it might be usable?

I'm not saying it is not "usable".  You can try and see it yourself by
downloading it from http://emacs-app.sourceforge.net/.  I think it's
too early to judge if it becomes good enough for Emacs 23.

				      YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituaharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-08  3:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-06 16:22 carbon build hangs on startup Cyrus Harmon
2007-10-06 20:09 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-07 15:05   ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-10-07 15:36     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-07 15:56       ` Jason Rumney
2007-10-07 16:02         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-08  1:27     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2007-10-08  2:56       ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-10-08  3:59         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [this message]
2007-10-11  4:08           ` Cyrus Harmon
2007-10-11  4:31             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2007-10-11 14:52               ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-10-13 17:02     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-15 18:24       ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-10-15 18:53       ` Carbon port input problems: keyboard events linger (was: carbon build hangs on startup) Ted Zlatanov

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