From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8? Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:01:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83cz16k2kx.fsf@gnu.org> <833522jwvr.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmzdjk6l.fsf@yahoo.com> <219844d2-ca07-30f4-4e2c-1b1df76d0fa5@cs.ucla.edu> <83fs60hnj2.fsf@gnu.org> <83cz14guz3.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg48gsa9.fsf@yahoo.com> <87v8ewgoin.fsf@yahoo.com> <83wmzcf2e0.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt08gc6n.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12651"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 07 15:01:51 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qHl5q-00039I-Uv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:01:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHl5W-0008Nr-1r; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 09:01:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHl5C-0008Kh-2U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 09:01:11 -0400 Original-Received: from woodpecker.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183] helo=smtp.gentoo.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_CHACHA20_POLY1305:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHl5A-00039M-17; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 09:01:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mt08gc6n.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Fri, 07 Jul 2023 20:04:32 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=140.211.166.183; envelope-from=ulm@gentoo.org; helo=smtp.gentoo.org X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307567 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 07 Jul 2023, Po Lu wrote: >> Sorry, poor choice of wording. What I meant was that when users >> encounter a rare case like UTF-7 (or any of the others you just >> mentioned), then they should get an indication of the fact. > Just to encourage them to convert those files into another ``common'' > coding system? No, to make them aware that the the encoding is something other that UTF-8. And yes, I do want to know if the file that I'm about to save can be used as input for the next program (e.g. a compiler or a web server). > Emacs should stay impartial on such matters, and I can't think of any > other purpose for specifically indicating that a rarely encountered > coding system is being used.