From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Various fixes for early init file changes Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:08:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87vadsnzw5.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1521561999 29142 195.159.176.226 (20 Mar 2018 16:06:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:06:39 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.91 (windows-nt) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 20 17:06:35 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eyJmT-0007Qq-7z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:06:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50403 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eyJoU-0005Pm-PW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eyJoI-0005O7-Vc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:08:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eyJoF-0006x2-F3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:08:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=34101 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eyJoF-0006uz-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:08:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eyJm4-00071E-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 17:06:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:IOET7QZ9bZSRW5CcGG8JsvZeOlE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223857 Archived-At: On Mon 19 Mar 2018, Radon Rosborough wrote: >> There is another change we could consider: automatically removing the automatically-added call to package-initialize. > > We want to be careful to avoid unnecessary tampering with the user's > init-file, since my annoyance with that was the whole reason I pushed > this change through. That said, I think it would be reasonable to > automagically remove it as long as it's accompanied by the "Added by > Package.el" comment which identifies it as definitely not > user-written. It was a mistake to automatically add code to the user's init file. Automatically deleting code from the user's init file is even worse - I cannot imagine any circumstance in which automatic deletion is acceptable. AndyM