From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 21:43:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1552789070.5272.1@yandex.ru> <1552791707.5272.2@yandex.ru> <1552793646.5272.3@yandex.ru> <1552821396.21432.0@yandex.ru> <83imwhwf4x.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="161995"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Konstantin Kharlamov To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 19 02:44:24 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h63nh-000g19-Dd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 02:44:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50023 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h63ng-0001KJ-6x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 21:44:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h63n1-0001K4-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 21:43:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50245) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h63ml-0002li-7L; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 21:43:28 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h63mj-0002nN-32; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 21:43:21 -0400 X-Spook: Consular al-Qaida Islam Abduganievich Karimov target X-Ran: MdVsub7LreW*[m}sB*$hA^x&z8NC#OUB\QwIk4RF|W5(W&%;zm3SrKK"%Zj1T^,]%lII!~ X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 19 Mar 2019 02:52:17 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:234349 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov wrote: > I can't help but feel that the mentions of Savannah in this thread are > disingenuous. After registering there, adding an ssh key and sending > the membership request for the emacs project, I never went back there, > or used it for anything else. This is, I suspect, the case for many > other contributors as well. Everyone uses Savannah every time they push or pull a commit to/from Emacs, or reads the diff list, or looks at cgit. We rely on the Savannah hackers to maintain a secure, reliable, and robust repository. There are issues of authentication, managing user accounts, keeping the system up-to-date, security, scaling, managing the web server, backups, etc, to deal with. I think they have done a great job for years. This was true in the Bazaar days, and CVS before. I can't remember a time when the Emacs developers have ever managed their own repository. I wouldn't like that responsibility. (I assume non-self-hosted gitlab is a non-starter as per https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html ) I would hope a hypothetical self-hosted gitlab, if acceptable, would be open to all GNU projects, as Savannah is. Even if not, it's still a big and ongoing job to be responsible for such a system.