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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:16:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vj1w2sr2yo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1K9IlH-0002ET-SH@etlken.m17n.org

Kenichi Handa wrote:

>> Here is the M-x font-show-log output:
>
>> sort-by: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
>>   -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
>
> This is the strange part. I don't know why the PIXELSIZE field is
> "*". As I modified the log to prepend the font-driver name before
> the font-entity and font-object, please take the log again and show me.

(No worries, I imagine all this font stuff is a nightmare to sort out.)

The bold font is correct again now (Emacs from 2 days ago gets it wrong).

I noticed that Emacs 22 and current CVS choose slightly different
fonts for fixed and variable pitch. Fixed looks smaller and a bit
uglier now. Variable just looks a bit different.

variable-pitch
CVS:
-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-101-100-100-p-78-iso8859-1
22:
-Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-R-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-76-ISO8859-1

fixed-pitch
CVS:
-urw-nimbus mono l-regular-r-normal--14-101-100-100-p-80-iso8859-1
22:
-Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--14-100-100-100-M-90-ISO8859-1


This is with:
Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1


Also, I have been specifying an italic font in ~/.emacs using

(face-spec-set 'italic
               '((t (:slant italic :underline nil :family "helvetica"))))

In CVS this now looks poor compared to in 22. Again they choose
different fonts:

CVS:
-urw-nimbus sans l-regular-i-normal--14-101-100-100-p-77-iso8859-1
22:
-Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-O-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-78-ISO8859-1


font log:

xfont-list: -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-40-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  ...
ftfont-list: -misc-fixed-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-oblique-semi-condensed-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-semi-condensed-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-10-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-10-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-semi-condensed-*-12-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-8-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-7-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-9-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-6-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
list: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-100-100-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-40-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-100-100-*-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
open: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
xfont-list: -misc-fixed-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-40-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  ...
ftfont-list: -misc-fixed-*--*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-oblique-semi-condensed-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-semi-condensed-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-10-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-10-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-semi-condensed-*-12-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-8-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-7-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-9-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-6-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
list: -misc-fixed-medium-*-normal--*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-40-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-medium-italic-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
open: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-*-r-normal--*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
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  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-light-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-*-r-normal--*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-light-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-*-r-normal--*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
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  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
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  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
open: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-medium-*-normal--*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
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  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
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  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-40-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-medium-italic-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1




  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-20  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-18  4:19 emacs chooses wrong bold font, again Glenn Morris
2008-06-19 11:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-20  7:16   ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2008-06-20  8:10     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-21 21:57       ` Glenn Morris
2008-06-26 23:41         ` Glenn Morris
2008-06-27  2:12           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-27  4:12             ` Glenn Morris
2008-06-27  6:22             ` Stefan Monnier

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