From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Our use of the "fixed" tag in debbugs Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2021 13:57:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26650"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 05 20:54:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXpaS-0006k3-Ab for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 20:54:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41346 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXpaP-0006xQ-W8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 14:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXohQ-0007E6-CT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 13:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48506) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXohP-00014b-Uh; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 13:57:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXohN-00070V-SJ; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 13:57:53 -0400 X-Spook: Taiwan speedbump BROMURE rail gun Forest fire Border X-Ran: 9]L_lP&qP3$Fo`J@O:;#RR>5=D:}9-+;u,|}dh2^pFe%Ju8KP2y:lJD X-Hue: brightblack X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 5 Oct 2021 13:27:04 -0400") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276369 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas wrote: > We currently use the debbugs "fixed" tag almost exclusively in this way: > > tags NNN fixed > close NNN 29.1 > thanks > > This is fine by me, no change needed here. Personally I think this is a misuse of the tag, which I have tried to discourage in https://debbugs.gnu.org/47854, and have actually been meaning to discourage again. :) I don't know why some Emacs developers use the tag in this way. > For example, I just tagged Bug#50985 ("Merging gnulib for Emacs 28.1?") > as "fixed". > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=50985 > > The idea here is that, yes, the issue is mainly taken care of but let's > wait with closing it until we feel more confident about the fallout. Personally I wish people would just be more proactive in closing things when they believe they are fixed. It's easily reversible if needed; unless someone has used the fixed tag! :) > Currently, bugs are unfortunately just left open and untagged, which > means that it can take a long time before someone goes back, tediously > re-reads everything, and then closes it. IMO this is just people failing to close a bug, so I don't see that they would be any more likely to tag it. Unless for some reason people are afraid of closing things. But of course having said all that people doing the work (which doesn't include me) are free to use the system however they find best.