From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current Tramp plans Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 19:28:10 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1026235884 20339 127.0.0.1 (9 Jul 2002 17:31:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Rypf-0005Hw-00 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 19:31:23 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17RyyC-0001Lo-00 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 19:40:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17RynU-0007PQ-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de ([129.217.4.42]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Rymq-0007Ow-00 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:28:28 -0400 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id g69HSKb11013 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:28:20 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id TAA29176; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:28:15 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id 528B73B5EF; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:28:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@cs.uni-dortmund.de's message of "Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:08:38 +0200") Original-Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5601 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5601 Kai.Grossjohann@cs.uni-dortmund.de (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > * The longterm goal is to unify the Tramp and Ange-FTP filenames, and > to use a format for the filenames which is a superset of the > Ange-FTP format. Some time ago, I asked you to test whether the Tramp and Ange-FTP filename integration works. Kim has responded with a bug which I hope to have fixed soon (if it isn't fixed already). So now is the time to discuss how to proceed. Please holler if you disagree with any of the following. On Emacs, the default will be to unify the filenames. On XEmacs, the default will be not to unify, as the XEmacs maintainers don't like the unification. If we want to be on the safe side, then Tramp should assume all filenames that look like "/user@host:path" are Ange-FTP filenames. This means Emacs behaves as before, and people can customize tramp-default-method-alist and tramp-default-method to change this behavior. If we want to encourage use of Tramp, we could use Tramp by default in many cases, and Ange-FTP only in some cases. For example, hosts matching "^ftp\\." could invoke Ange-FTP (regardless of the user name), and the users "anonymous" and "ftp" could also invoke Ange-FTP (regardless of the host name). Of course, in both cases, people can just specify an explicit method to override this default decision. What do you want? kai --=20 A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio)