From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Make GUI look better Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:33:23 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200204200947.LAA05497@pc35.bodenonline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019475384 10697 127.0.0.1 (22 Apr 2002 11:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel =?iso-8859-2?q?Jan=EDk?=), emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16zc7L-0002mQ-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:36:23 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16zc81-0002mp-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:37:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16zc7B-0008Gn-00; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:36:13 -0400 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de ([129.217.4.42]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16zc4d-0008BO-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:33:35 -0400 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id g3MBXTb26892; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:33:29 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id NAA02217; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:33:23 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id A383B3B390; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:33:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Jan D." In-Reply-To: <200204200947.LAA05497@pc35.bodenonline.com> ("Jan D."'s message of "Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:47:58 +0200 (MEST)") Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3024 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3024 "Jan D." writes: > I think the GUI was made to look similar to the Motif default, I can't > tell the difference if I have two Emacsen next to each other, one with > Motif and one with Lucid menubars. Motif defaults have been considered > a bit "heavy" by users used to some other look. I think Motif does not necessarily mean that the 3d relief effect needs to be so high. FWIW, I think that the CDE implementation on Solaris 2.6 uses a very "flat" look, like the new look proposed by Pavel. (Netscape 4.x looks different under Solaris CDE than under Solaris OpenWindows: under CDE its scrollbar is "flat", under OpenWindows the scrollbar is "high".) I vote for the new flat look. kai -- Silence is foo!