From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:58:30 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87ofbji88u.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87sn0scb0b.fsf@emacswiki.org> <200209061728.g86HSVp32767@rum.cs.yale.edu> <20020906220339.GA7270@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031425267 21052 127.0.0.1 (7 Sep 2002 19:01:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 19:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17nkpM-0005TL-00 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 21:01:04 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17nlOS-0008VD-00 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 21:37:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17nkpJ-0004KF-00; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 15:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17nknY-000472-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17nknV-00046h-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de ([129.217.4.42]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17nknV-00046H-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:59:09 -0400 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id g87Iwa818473; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:58:36 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id UAA15494; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:58:30 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id 93EFA3AFDE; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:58:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-Reply-To: ("Robert J. Chassell"'s message of "Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:17:06 +0000 (UTC)") Original-Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7701 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7701 "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > Per Abrahamsen wrote: > > The problem is the mindset that making complex applications written > by programmers for programmers easy to configure, is simply a > matter of providing a "friendly" interface to the existing > configuration mechanisms. This mindset is shared by most > traditional Unix developers (and probably Lisp developers too, but > who cares). > > However, this assumes that being "easy to configure" is merely a > matter of "syntactical sugar", that is, provide a form based > interface to the old text based configuration files. > > Please explain in more detail. I cannot infer your implications. Suppose I'm a novice trying to set up Gnus for mail. Customize won't help. kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio)