From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: Saving markup formats Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:56:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <871wgi9jzb.fsf@jidanni.org> <87odjlwpu1.fsf@jurta.org> <87ir9r1m99.fsf@jurta.org> <87myz2i9tj.fsf@jurta.org> <87r6ocx0tk.fsf_-_@jurta.org> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182023823 20498 80.91.229.12 (16 Jun 2007 19:57:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Oliver Scholz , emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 16 21:57:01 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HzeOJ-00089w-SH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:57:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzeOJ-0004ZN-FZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzeOA-0004Ud-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzeO9-0004Tc-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzeO7-0004Rc-2j; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HzeO4-0007pt-U9; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:45 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5GJudkj010055; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:56:39 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3200412AC2; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:56:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.; yo.b yq4$p; ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Followup-To: Richard Stallman , Juri Linkov , Oliver Scholz , In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:50:22 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-EATSERVER-Metrics: poseidon 1166; Body=5 Fuz1=5 Fuz2=5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-kernel: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73110 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:19223 Archived-At: [ I'd suggest to move this discussion to emacs-devel ] On Sat, Jun 16 2007, Richard Stallman wrote: [ Juri Linkov: ] > What are the most preferable formats to save markup? One variant is > Enriched text. It was designed for using in e-mail, but actually nobody > uses it nowadays. Most people prefer HTML in e-mail as a replacement of > plain text. > > HTML would be useful. RTF would be useful. XML would be useful. > The old Word format would be useful, at least to be able to read it. > If you implement any of these, it will be a nice contribution. > If you implement more than one, even better. Oliver Scholz (Cc-ed) has done some work on an RTF reader for Emacs a couple of years ago. Maybe his work is useful in the current context. Oliver has signed papers for Emacs (past and future changes) and I'm quite sure he'd assign this code as well. Here's the summary from the project page: ,----[ http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/emacs-rtf/ ] | This package aims to implement the "Rich Text Format" (RTF), version | 1.5, as a file format for GNU Emacs. It also provides the necessary | framework to edit RTF documents in an Emacs buffer. It is thus | intended to enhance the word processing capabilities of the Emacs | environment. The goal is to enable a user to edit RTF documents | without launching a non-Emacs application like OpenOffice or abiword. | | This package is in a very early state of development. Currently only | the reader is in the work, and only the main structure of it is | implemented. Some RTF documents are already rendered correctly, | though. `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/