From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: EMACS22: Unexpected question when fetching mail in Gnus... Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:09:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87pru6w0m3.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204974678 16404 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2008 11:11:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. 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Storm's message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:55:16 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.92 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-SIHOPE-DCC-3-Metrics: poseidon 1085; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91712 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66455 Archived-At: On Sat, Mar 08 2008, Kim F. Storm wrote: > This is new on EMACS 22 branch: > > All of a sudden (I upgraded from CVS), I'm asked a series of > questions when fetching my mail: > > Remove file `Incoming25737PnQ'? (y or n) [...] I wonder why nobody using Emacs trunk or No Gnus complained about the questions yet. (I'll make it clearer what the question is all about.) > Not knowing whether it is safe to do so, I answer no - and > the list just keeps on growing... > > This is due to the following change: > > 2008-02-16 Reiner Steib > > * mail-source.el (mail-source-delete-incoming): Change default. > Supplement doc string. > > Why was this change made? See . Summary: Before this change, stable versions of Gnus deleted delete (intermediate) incoming mail files immediately after handling them whereas development versions kept them forever. After the recent discussion, I've changed the default to keep the incoming file a couple of days as a safety belt. ,---- | (defcustom mail-source-delete-incoming | 10 ;; development versions | ;; 2 ;; released versions `---- > -- at least without changing the default for > mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm too. Sorry for that. When I made this change, I completely forgot about `mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm' (I've set it to nil ever since I introduced it in 2003). I agree that the default should be either... (a) positive `mail-source-delete-incoming' and `mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm' set to nil, or... (b) `mail-source-delete-incoming' set to t (as it was in Emacs <= 22.1.91 / Gnus 5.10.8) > At least it should have been documented in GNUS-NEWS. I will do that. I'm sorry that this came up to late for pretest 22.1.92. I'd suggest to go for (a), i.e. keep `mail-source-delete-incoming' set to 2 and set `mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm' nil (including the improvements mentioned above). Yidong, if you strongly prefer a different change for 22.2, please let me know. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/