From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Let's shut down bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:52:42 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134434232 24967 80.91.229.2 (13 Dec 2005 00:37:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 13 01:37:11 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ely8N-00078D-CC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:35:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ely8s-0005cI-K9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:35:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ely70-0004ww-TE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:33:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ely6z-0004wb-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:33:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ely6y-0004wW-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:33:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1Ely8m-0006lM-QA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:35:36 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ely4R-0005tI-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:31:08 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.123]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:31:07 +0100 Original-Received: from Reiner.Steib by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:31:07 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: /U7=m^"/-Dn61mAl{g9e3>\G5Tp,oEX|V)g2I1hBk\ML; )7A?6cmB-y7y?'NA^J<=oz7syB =(McAwIHgLX!.B?R3X}98d@?>CrT094KLWh]WU4gDpnL/")MS(XoQTv`Oq225uL>+; CpPXo$N5e>N> $tPd-gbB^F{gQS#1ase]XO~D4p4M"3+F-7~u]dy3I?Pb8RO*H-EFeWDUf?Rf, d]pv\Jvh2Cht!A=im yKAS2Z%Ao^;}W/qzMvMm Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4L6CzRy5RJpoUTdwoms3AVeeddM= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47584 Archived-At: On Mon, Dec 12 2005, Stefan Monnier wrote: > It makes no difference indeed in the case where you don't read the list *at > all* before posting. But if you select the newsgroup just before posting an > article (the standard operation AFAIK: it's even usually recommended to > read a bit of a newsgroup before you post to it), or if you check the > archive before sending a mail to the mailing-list, then I'd be surprised if > the spam doesn't turn you off. I mean: you really have to look for the > valid articles in order to realize that the group/list is actually > still alive. Agreed. I read bug-gnu-emacs via gmane.org (gmane.emacs.bugs). After applying Gmane's spam detection (detected spam is cross-posted to gmane.spam.detected) and some home grown leafnode filters, the spam ratio is approximately 50%. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/