From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:56:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87fxs0hrrv.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <4840084C.2020405@gmail.com> <87d4n3ii41.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <48407716.5080704@gmail.com> <874p8fi9op.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87od6lc1bd.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87skvwdztw.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212433039 15901 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2008 18:57:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Florian Beck , Stefan Monnier To: paul.r.ml@gmail.com (Paul R.) 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X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98253 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22536 Archived-At: On Mon, Jun 02 2008, Paul R wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> We definitely have a problem in this respect. Traditionally on Unix, >> sending mail is done via the /usr/sbin/sendmail program, but nowadays >> it's very common to have such programs completely misconfigured. >> It's fundamentally a bug in the distributions, I believe, but it's not >> one that we can expect to see fixed any time soon, so we're going to >> have to deal with it. > > I can't find what prevents us from using sendmail.el, with a default > bug-report configuration, i.e. a preconfigured smtp server allowing > bug reports. [So you mean `smtpmail.el'?] AFAIK many (corporate) firewall configurations (and ISPs) won't allow outgoing connections from clients on port 25. Instead of this, we should better work on a simple web based bug submission form which can be sent to the bugtracker via Emacs' url library (or emacs-w3m?). Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/