From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:39:23 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Message-ID: References: <016b01c51163$45e1d630$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <16186.217.194.34.123.1108368907.squirrel@wwws.franken.de> <4210762C.9030203@gnu.org> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108404721 20086 80.91.229.2 (14 Feb 2005 18:12:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 14 19:12:01 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0kfl-00026x-Hi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:10:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0kvK-0002zZ-Fy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:26:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ktq-0002kM-RU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:24:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ktd-0002fS-5l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:24:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ktc-0002TF-Fg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:24:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1D0kRO-0003uz-Ru for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:55:23 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1D0kP0-0007DK-V9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:52:54 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.123]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:52:54 +0100 Original-Received: from Reiner.Steib by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:52:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 50 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: /U7=m^"/-Dn61mAl{g9e3>\G5Tp,oEX|V)g2I1hBk\ML; )7A?6cmB-y7y?'NA^J<=oz7syB =(McAwIHgLX!.B?R3X}98d@?>CrT094KLWh]WU4gDpnL/")MS(XoQTv`Oq225uL>+; CpPXo$N5e>N> $tPd-gbB^F{gQS#1ase]XO~D4p4M"3+F-7~u]dy3I?Pb8RO*H-EFeWDUf?Rf, d]pv\Jvh2Cht!A=im yKAS2Z%Ao^;}W/qzMvMm Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6F5gMteVHg8hp2+NNwwpnM1xgI0= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33403 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33403 On Mon, Feb 14 2005, David Kastrup wrote: > Uh what? Tooltips are enabled by default. At least I get them also > with -q -no-site-file. The customization buffer says, however, [...] > Tooltip Mode: Hide Toggle on (non-nil) > State: this option has been changed outside the customize buffer. I think this is the reason: ,----[ startup.el ] | (defun command-line () | [...] | (unless (or noninteractive | emacs-quick-startup | (not (display-graphic-p)) | (not (fboundp 'x-show-tip))) | (setq-default tooltip-mode t) | (tooltip-mode 1)) `---- > Which would appear rather wrong, as it would mean that you could not > customize tooltips off even if you wanted to. No, apparently the customization are processed later: $ rm .emacs $ emacs -no-site-file [ Customizing Tooltip Mode off ...] $ cat .emacs (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(tooltip-mode nil nil (tooltip))) [...] $ emacs -no-site-file ,---- | Tooltip Mode: Hide Value Toggle off (nil) | State: You have set this option and saved it through Customize in | your init file. `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/