From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Automatically generated ChangeLogs (was: Selection-set editing without VC-dired) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:25:47 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20071230142812.C8027CF80B9@golux.thyrsus.com> <85wsqww8ie.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199377631 16915 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2008 16:27:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@golux.thyrsus.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 03 17:27:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JASul-0000Qf-91 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:27:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JASuP-0003q5-29 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:27:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JAStz-0003eH-Jp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:26:39 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JAStv-0003bj-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:26:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JAStu-0003bY-VO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:26:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JAStr-0000DI-35; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:26:31 -0500 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m03GQSxH012360; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:26:28 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A8B1C50A; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:26:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel X-Face: 1; h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB; kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm; %Od (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:05:14 -0500") Posted-To: gmane.emacs.devel X-DCC-CTc-dcc2-Metrics: triton 1031; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85999 Archived-At: [ The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to news:gmane.emacs.devel as well. ] On Thu, Jan 03 2008, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Richard Stallman wrote: >> Recent trends in VCS make the ChangeLog file more important. The >> reason I dropped my opposition to multi-file commits is that I >> realized that the info I used to get by looking at a CVS log, I could get >> from the ChangeLog file instead with a suitable selective visibility >> mode. > > From what I can see, recent trends in VCS make the ChangeLog file less > important because it can be automatically regenerated from the > commit logs. And by "automatically regenerated" I really mean that the > output is just as good, or even identical. Currently our ChangeLogs contain information about the contributor which is not necessarily identical to the committer. Would a recent VCS hold this information in a form that an automatically regenerated ChangeLog contains it too? Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/