From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gnus for next release Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:04:10 +0200 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040509230720.GB20485@fencepost> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084183737 25967 80.91.224.253 (10 May 2004 10:08:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon May 10 12:08:51 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BN7iN-000575-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:08:51 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BN7iN-0004eL-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:08:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BN7fi-0006RL-Hw for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 06:06:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BN7eZ-0005zV-Uk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 06:04:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BN7e2-0005qd-EW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 06:04:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BN7e1-0005qT-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 06:04:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BN7e1-0001F9-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:04:21 +0200 Original-Received: from lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:04:21 +0200 Original-Received: from reiner.steib by lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:04:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lumberjack.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.; yo.b yq4$p; ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DWer5xlKYI4sy0SrTcIrFKJ1H5A= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23032 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23032 On Mon, May 10 2004, David Kastrup wrote: > Miles Bader writes: > >> I've been talking with the Gnus developers, and it comes up that it >> would probably be a good idea to put the current stable release of >> Gnus into the next Emacs release. > [...] >> So what about it? Sounds pretty good and safe to me (and Gnus is >> largely a standalone part of emacs). > > High time. It should have been put in at least half a year ago. In fact we started discussing it in January (see the thread http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55650). (The discussion started on the Gnus list. Later it was Cc-ed to emacs-devel, too.) > While it missed the semi-official feature freeze, this was IMO just > an oversight (didn't think of it myself): it is not that any mad > rushes of last-minute fixes were what was causing this. One reason for the Gnus developers' hesitation/delay might have been the crypto problems which are solved now: . Another reason for the delay were the bootstrap problems I encountered starting to use Miles arch repositories (; Miles suggested that merging using arch should be easier.) I hope that we can merge Gnus 5.10 into the Emacs trunk despite of being at little bit late. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- PGP key available via WWW http://rsteib.home.pages.de/