From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: M-Tab on w32 (and other window systems?) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:36:53 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Message-ID: References: <014201c512f1$05630180$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <018501c5132e$08b7e520$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <01ad01c5135e$a4a92810$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108480265 28141 80.91.229.2 (15 Feb 2005 15:11:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 16:11:04 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D14Lk-0000ut-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:10:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D14bV-0005yb-Ju for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D14Yt-0004zg-DC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:24:27 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D14Yf-0004w9-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:24:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D14Yd-0004iO-AV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:24:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1D14A4-00044j-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:58:48 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1D1477-0006Lo-55 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:55:45 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.123]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:55:45 +0100 Original-Received: from Reiner.Steib by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:55:45 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: 'bg&jY[8V'W&:=~6w"|>}#4/T; w~36ei4NNMyKRR.a$n=$|sWFPF1y]a\>6kc\*#GN]UDM| Ywv, vbL^XF1nIp\:F=$Ei2o&mEe:%N~, :3]vtQ~s9u$9izmX$IF@VgGl7/, ^dbuM<3|AO2}.%|%?kZ 2Y=@\U!~cll^=8Z9ihKq%wmUe1Ky(#kl3T'>Qk0Ia3mCBsTk?E(,X Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dRaZ22EJ7epFSj4gOEeGeZ8VmDg= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33478 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33478 On Tue, Feb 15 2005, Lennart Borgman wrote: > Thanks, that is very useful! However there was another point in my original > message: Info only mention Alt-Tab. Could you be more specific? Most Emacs info nodes use `M-' [1] and the tutorial explains that you can use ESC instead of M- (Meta): ,----[ C-h t ] | M- means hold the META or EDIT or ALT key down while typing . | If there is no META, EDIT or ALT key, instead press and release the | ESC key and then type . We write for the ESC key. `---- > To me this seems ignorant since on w32 at least Alt-Tab can not be > used at all. I would appreciate if this was changed. I don't think this problem is specific to windows. Probably there are a lot of Window managers for X11 that bind M-TAB by default. Bye, Reiner. [1] C-h i d m Emacs RET i M-TAB RET , , , -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/