From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: require GNU make to build emacs? Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:29:38 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200802242344.m1ONihq5014668@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203913792 16653 80.91.229.12 (25 Feb 2008 04:29:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 25 05:30:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JTUyl-0002Sy-Oz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:30:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JTUyF-0000lh-Ra for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:29:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JTUyB-0000lZ-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:29:39 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JTUyA-0000lN-MK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:29:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JTUyA-0000lK-IF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:29:38 -0500 Original-Received: from heller.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.23]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JTUyA-0004OC-4P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:29:38 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-228-241-165.inter.net.il [84.228.241.165]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id FBX83486 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:29:35 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <200802242344.m1ONihq5014668@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (message from Dan Nicolaescu on Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:44:43 -0800) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90347 Archived-At: > From: Dan Nicolaescu > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:44:43 -0800 > > Shouldn't we require GNU make to build emacs? Requesting a specific flavor of Make is a limitation and a burden on users who build Emacs, and as such, we shouldn't impose it without a good reason, IMO. Is there a good reason for that? > Having a modern make should help simplify the makefiles and maybe the > whole build process. Is that the only reason, or are there real problems with non-GNU Make in our build process? > GCC has required GNU make for 3-4 years without any problems. They require it for a good reason. But their situation is different: most users will not build a compiler, but Emacs is a different story.