From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: terminal escapes in Info files? Date: 29 Oct 2003 16:14:28 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200310282009.h9SK95E06713@f7.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067437053 6594 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 14:17:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dirt@gtk.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 15:17:30 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEr8c-0006vW-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:17:30 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEr8c-0000Qq-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:17:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEr4m-0008Bh-Uc for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:13:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEr4N-0008AS-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:13:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEr3p-00083L-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:13:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.232.27.5] (helo=WST0054) by monty-python.gnu.org with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEr3o-00081Z-EQ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:12:32 -0500 Original-To: Oliver Scholz In-reply-to: (message from Oliver Scholz on Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:52:39 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17547 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17547 > From: Oliver Scholz > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:52:39 +0100 > > With all due respect, I don't see an improvement in using ANSI escape > sequences. The improvement, quite obviously, is that the stand-alone Info reader, which is text-mode based, will be able to display attributes such as bold, underline, italics, and (on color-capable terminals) colors, and it will be able to do that without any changes whatsoever in the reader's own code (at least the part of it that runs on Unix and GNU systems; DOS and Windows might need some adaptation). > Maybe old tty info readers would send the escape sequences > to the terminal, but you'd still need an Emacs info reader which is up > to date, anyways. The assumption was that the Emacs Info reader can easily translate the escapes into faces. ansi-colors.el already shows how. > Given that you have compatibility issues in either > case, I'd like to plea for a syntactical markup. So you propose to have 2 problems instead of one, yes?