From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: File menu changes (suggestions) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:19:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119907299 14084 80.91.229.2 (27 Jun 2005 21:21:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 27 23:21:38 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn12A-0005mv-Eh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:20:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn19r-00089X-HE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:28:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn18G-0007bV-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn18A-0007Yk-QU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn189-0007Wu-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dn154-0001Yz-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:23:50 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-206-187.inter.net.il [80.230.206.187]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id BQX32019 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:19:22 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39695 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39695 > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:13:48 -0700 > > FYI, "One Window" is what we had before Emacs 21.1. Like I said: we > are regressing. > > Not all movement from one version to the next is progress. It happens > sometimes that previous behavior was better than current behavior. Life is > like that, sometimes. With all due respect, I don't know where you get the right to talk about the 21.1 menu design with such an arrogance. That design was based on a lot of research. Menus of quite a few other GUI programs were studied, as well as various GUI design guidelines for popular toolkits. The initial version based on that research was then scrutinized in prolonged discussions, and what went into v21.1 was the best solution we could find to the various issues and problems raised in those discussions. By contrast, your suggestions are based on opinions of a single individual.