From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:05:48 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4308398B.60401@gmx.at> <200508230008.j7N081514425@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200508230456.j7N4u6x14879@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200508232202.j7NM2Pv18069@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1124993770 30475 80.91.229.2 (25 Aug 2005 18:16:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 25 20:15:57 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E8MFg-00063E-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:15:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E8MJZ-00038I-NI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:19:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E8MHQ-0002fG-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E8MH4-0002XN-8w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:16:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E8MH4-0002Pn-5q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:16:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.20] (helo=nitzan.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E8M89-0005p8-1s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:07:13 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-211-26.inter.net.il [83.130.211.26]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.6.5-GR) with ESMTP id BGJ08443 (AUTH halo1); Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:05:48 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-reply-to: (storm@cua.dk) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42407 Archived-At: > Cc: Luc Teirlinck , rudalics@gmx.at, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:54:00 +0200 > > Suppose you have a pop-up in a Windoze application similar to > the M-x customize-face interface in Emacs. > > Now, if a Windoze user clicks with the "What's this" mouse > cursor on the [109 ] input field: > > [x] Height: Value Menu Height in 1/10 pt: [109 ] > > she would expect to get some form of explanation of what the value > entered into the "Height" field means. She _might_ expect that, but what I see in my testing is something like this instead: Click this to set the menu height. > To me, it seems you are the only one defending "What's This", and IMHO > you are beating a dead horse. That's an interesting view: I am beating a dead horse, but those who are arguing with me are not. Yeah, right. And no, I'm not defending that menu item. I just don't like us to reverse past decisions, especially those which were made after some deliberations, and while almost all of the present parties were there, reading the list and did not object. > > So I still think your objections are generally valid for our doc > > strings, not specific to "What's This?". > > Which doesn't make "What't This" any less deficient... Nor does it make it more deficient.