From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: can't turn off font-lock Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:26:25 +0300 Message-ID: References: <200708132331.l7DNV8s17892@f7.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187062022 2963 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2007 03:27:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:27:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 14 05:26:58 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IKn3Z-0002O7-MV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:26:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IKn3Z-0001PX-74 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:26:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IKn37-00015l-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:26:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IKn37-000155-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:26:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IKn36-00014q-Uv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:26:28 -0400 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IKn36-0001ln-F5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:26:28 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-53-103.inter.net.il [83.130.53.103]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id HNK78311 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:23:45 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <200708132331.l7DNV8s17892@f7.net> (karl@freefriends.org) X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76491 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:31:08 -0500 > From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) > > As I wrote in other msgs, it is quite painful to discover and turn off > all the face names individually. (E.g., C-u C-x = isn't usable with > minibuffer text, mode lines, etc.) Did you actually try to use "C-u C-x =" in the minibuffer? It works for me. But I agree that discovering the faces is a job best avoided. > If you feel it's inappropriate for (global-font-lock-mode 0) to turn off > such things, then how about another feature that turns off all these > colorizations and such things? As in, (black-and-white-emacs) ... I think it makes a lot of sense to have either global-font-lock-mode turn off all faces (perhaps with minor exceptions, like mode line and fringe?) or to have another option to do that in one go. > P.S. I also noticed that the startup screen and *scratch* buffer text are > colorized, although I was turning off font-lock on the cmd line: > emacs-22.1 -q --no-site --eval "(global-font-lock-mode 0)" Try doing that in one of the hooks defined by startup.el, it could be that the command-line args are processed too late for them to have any effect on the initial display.