From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: tassilo@member.fsf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Functions in kill-emacs-hook aren't run if emacs gets killed with SIGTERM
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:23:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <uy6wovb9f.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvljso4t05.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca>
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:32:43 -0500
> Cc: tassilo@member.fsf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > We may also delay it indefinitely if we run Lisp, because that could
> > infloop, especially if our internal data structures are unstable.
>
> What makes you think our data structures might be unstable when we
> get SIGTERM?
Because of what you yourself wrote:
> AFAIK this signal is only received when some external process
> decides that Emacs should stop
An external process can decide that Emacs should stop whenever it
wants to, and Emacs could be in the middle of GC, for example.
> so data structures should be just as stable as when we receive
> SIGUSRn.
I wasn't comparing with SIGUSRn when I wrote the above.
> > If SIGTERM is used to programmatically shut down Emacs, I think it's
> > rather a conceptual bug in whatever uses SIGTERM for that purpose.
>
> Huh? SIGTERM is *the canonical way* to programmatically shut down an
> application via a signal.
From _outside_ Emacs, yes. Which isn't the case here.
Anyway, Dan suggested a better way long ago, so it's IMO pointless to
continue this argument.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-02 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-24 20:32 Functions in kill-emacs-hook aren't run if emacs gets killed with SIGTERM Stefan Monnier
2009-02-02 20:23 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-02-02 20:52 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-02-02 21:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-03 10:43 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-02-05 3:34 ` Stefan Monnier
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2009-02-03 17:28 grischka
2009-02-05 3:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-05 13:31 ` grischka
2009-02-05 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-24 20:39 Stefan Monnier
2009-01-23 19:01 grischka
2009-01-23 22:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-24 14:16 ` grischka
2009-01-24 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-24 17:56 ` grischka
2009-01-24 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-24 19:11 ` grischka
2009-01-24 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-24 20:28 ` grischka
2009-01-21 8:06 Tassilo Horn
2009-01-21 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-21 19:49 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-21 20:35 ` Chong Yidong
2009-01-22 9:03 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-21 20:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-22 4:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-22 9:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-22 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-23 2:15 ` mail
2009-01-23 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-22 10:08 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-01-22 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-23 1:52 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-22 14:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-22 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-22 21:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-23 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-23 15:58 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-23 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-23 19:56 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-01-23 22:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-23 23:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-23 23:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-24 9:04 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-24 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-24 12:34 ` Miles Bader
2009-01-24 10:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-23 20:33 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-01-23 22:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-24 4:40 ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-24 6:11 ` Miles Bader
2009-01-23 1:52 ` Richard M Stallman
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