From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unicode support for the MS Windows clipboard Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:02:29 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <9681-Thu27May2004100522+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <3405-Wed28Jul2004064514+0300-eliz@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091001812 22990 80.91.224.253 (28 Jul 2004 08:03:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Benjamin Riefenstahl , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 28 10:03:23 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BpjPG-00060X-00 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:03:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpjSM-0007VL-LG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:06:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpjRp-0007VG-TH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpjRm-0007V3-Fx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:06:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpjRl-0007V0-Uz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:05:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BpjOY-0006Vh-K2; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:02:39 -0400 Original-Received: from wanchan.jasonrumney.net (i-195-137-77-250.freedom2surf.net [195.137.77.250]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6S82XnF029849; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:02:33 +0100 Original-Received: from TONKOTSU-RAMEN (tonkotsu-ramen.jasonrumney.net [10.0.0.28]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56348DDD4B; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:02:33 +0100 (BST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <3405-Wed28Jul2004064514+0300-eliz@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:45:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26043 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26043 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: > Right. The Unicode mode of the Windows clipboard is not really a > coding-system, as it cannot be used in any other context. Therefore, > I think we should have a w32-clipboard-encoding-mode or some such, not > a coding-system. I don't see any point in introducing a new variable that will become obsolete in the next version of Emacs. With Unicode as the internal encoding of Emacs, it will always be better to use unicode-mode, so there is no point in confusing users with the option. Even now, I cannot think of any coding-systems that are supported by Windows that we do not have Unicode support for. Since we originally discussed Unicode clipboard support, the CJK unicode tables have been made to autoload on demand, so the last remaining hurdle for making Unicode the default on Windows is gone.