From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vc-next-action not behaving Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:17:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1117094897.3816.206.camel@localhost> <1117114694.3816.219.camel@localhost> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117131530 6754 80.91.229.2 (26 May 2005 18:18:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 18:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 26 20:18:40 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DbMtn-0001XB-3x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:16:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DbMxt-0004Hd-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:20:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DbMxZ-0004G6-2g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:19:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DbMxY-0004Fa-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:19:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DbMxX-0004FB-Oq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:19:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [207.172.4.63] (helo=smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DbMvp-0006Gr-GU; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from 146-115-127-135.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO I9300.boost-consulting.com) (146.115.127.135) by smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 26 May 2005 14:17:08 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.93,140,1115006400"; d="scan'208"; a="39679860:sNHT22133700" Original-To: Andre Spiegel In-Reply-To: <1117114694.3816.219.camel@localhost> (Andre Spiegel's message of "Thu, 26 May 2005 15:38:13 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37721 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37721 Andre Spiegel writes: > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 08:28 -0400, David Abrahams wrote: > >> I'm on EST, which is GMT-05:00. Even if one of these is supposed to >> be a GMT time it doesn't agree with either of the others. I'm using >> CVS from Cygwin, which I have installed with its bin directories in my >> regular Windows PATH all the time. > > Judging from your mail headers, you are currently at GMT-04:00 due to > daylight savings. I never can keep track of which side of DST I'm on. Confirming... yeah, you're right. Still doesn't explain anything. > The time in CVS/Entries is supposed to be UTC (=GMT). > You should make sure that for a freshly checked out file, this is indeed > the case. It isn't. Entries contains 16:46 right now and it's 17:46 GMT. > If it isn't, it's a setup problem with CVS and/or Cygwin or Windows. Well, those are the same three culprits I was considering once someone pointed me at CVS/Entries. > > It doesn't really matter what time you get in a directory listing -- > the operating system is supposed to show you local time, but Emacs > mtime (in file-attributes) must, once again, be UTC. Okay, emacs appears to have the right mtime, although I have to have a strange reading of the file-attributes doc in order to see it that way: 4. Last access time, as a list of two integers. First integer has high-order 16 bits of time, second has low 16 bits. It's (17046 2788) If that's really meant to be a 32-bit number and 17046 means 17:46, there are some big gaps in numerical time. ;-) > I'm not familiar with NT at all, and I don't know how timezones are > managed on that operating system usually. A dialog box ;-) > On Unix, the system clock runs in UTC, which is converted to local > time only upon display. I suspect that somewhere in there, you have > a daylight savings misconfiguration -- maybe some part of your > system thinks it is running under DST, and another doesn't. Surely. > Hope this helps. A little, but I'm afraid I'm still stuck (just a little further forward than I was). The latest information I can find about this is from 2003, and I've been using Cygwin CVS through DST changes for years without incident. Another prominently indexed thread from 2001 ends with: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/gnu.cvs.help/msg/8fe939925748a068?hl=en so I'm almost afraid to ask. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com