C-h k problem for F2 (and something about -geometry and -Q)

C-h k problem for F2 (and something about -geometry and -Q)

[Eric Lilja]

Hello, using the following emacs:
GNU Emacs 22.0.99.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2007-04-24 on MINDCOOLER

Starting emacs with:
$ emacs -Q

Well, actually, emacs in my system is an alias:
alias emacs='emacs -geometry 125x70+0+0'
but when I give it -Q something happens to the geometry parameter 
because the window has the proper width but is too large vertically. 
Larger than what fits on my 1280*1024 LCD. This is annoying and I don't 
know why. Guess it's something in my .emacs that allows geometry to 
function as it should? Have no clue what that might be, though.
Anyway, back to my real question...

Here's something I thought was strange:
C-h k F7
<f7> is undefined
C-h k F2
Then it waits for additional input:
Describe key (or click or menu item): f2-
(It also seems to print Loading two-column...done the first time).
why does it behave that way for F2? Stumbled upon this when checking for 
available function keys I could use for my personal bindings. I tried 
all the other function keys with C-h k and only F2 exhibits this behaviour.

- Eric

Re: C-h k problem for F2 (and something about -geometry and -Q)

[Andreas Schwab]

Eric Lilja <mindcooler@gmail.com> writes:

> Here's something I thought was strange:
> C-h k F7
> <f7> is undefined
> C-h k F2
> Then it waits for additional input:
> Describe key (or click or menu item): f2-
> (It also seems to print Loading two-column...done the first time).
> why does it behave that way for F2?

F2 is a prefix key.  It waits for you to type more to complete the key
sequence.

Andreas.

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Re: C-h k problem for F2 (and something about -geometry and -Q)

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Eric Lilja <mindcooler@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 00:08:34 +0200
> 
> Hello, using the following emacs:
> GNU Emacs 22.0.99.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2007-04-24 on MINDCOOLER
> 
> Starting emacs with:
> $ emacs -Q
> 
> Well, actually, emacs in my system is an alias:
> alias emacs='emacs -geometry 125x70+0+0'
> but when I give it -Q something happens to the geometry parameter 
> because the window has the proper width but is too large vertically. 
> Larger than what fits on my 1280*1024 LCD.

I cannot reproduce this, but I tried with 125x30+0+0, as my monitor is
too small for 70-lines frame.  Does it work for you with other
geometry parameters, or is the size wrong no matter what geometry you
use?

Also, what version of Windows is that?  Mine is XP SP2.

Re: C-h k problem for F2 (and something about -geometry and -Q)

[Eric Lilja]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Eric Lilja <mindcooler@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 00:08:34 +0200
>>
>> Hello, using the following emacs:
>> GNU Emacs 22.0.99.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2007-04-24 on MINDCOOLER
>>
>> Starting emacs with:
>> $ emacs -Q
>>
>> Well, actually, emacs in my system is an alias:
>> alias emacs='emacs -geometry 125x70+0+0'
>> but when I give it -Q something happens to the geometry parameter 
>> because the window has the proper width but is too large vertically. 
>> Larger than what fits on my 1280*1024 LCD.
> 
> I cannot reproduce this, but I tried with 125x30+0+0, as my monitor is
> too small for 70-lines frame.  Does it work for you with other
> geometry parameters, or is the size wrong no matter what geometry you
> use?

False alarm, it seems, I forgot I had a font setting in my .emacs. With 
that font and that geometry setting I get a 68 lines frame window and 
the emacs covers the entire screen vertically, excluding the start bar 
(which is what I want). I guess the default font is a bit bigger so when 
I request 70 lines worth I get a window that is too large vertically for 
my resolution.

> 
> Also, what version of Windows is that?  Mine is XP SP2.

Same.

- Eric