From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: w32-pass-lwindow-to-system does not work as expected Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:43:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <42CADC1A.4060106@student.lu.se> <42CAF37E.2060307@student.lu.se> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120622369 24150 80.91.229.2 (6 Jul 2005 03:59:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 05:59:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dq13y-0000S4-0U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:59:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dq15F-0000JM-VP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:00:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dq0zl-0007QS-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dq0zU-0007Hu-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:54:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dq0zS-0007E4-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:54:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dq0uc-0006uU-Nm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:49:26 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-144-159.inter.net.il [80.230.144.159]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id EVD40054 (AUTH halo1); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:43:00 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-reply-to: <42CAF37E.2060307@student.lu.se> (message from Lennart Borgman on Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:54:22 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40490 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40490 > Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:54:22 +0200 > From: Lennart Borgman > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I would not suggest using it if I believed that. I cannot do anything about your beliefs. I wrote about the caveats because my experience taught me that low-level keyboard hooks bring maintenance headaches in the long run. For example, even the simple hook you posted could conceivably raise some issues, if the user did some tweaking of her keyboard operation wrt the lwindow key (e.g., the scan code map can be modified via the registry). On more general grounds, when Emacs users on other systems complain about trouble with key assignments, they are told to use system tools to reassign keys; we never try to solve such problems in Emacs. Why do that for MS-Windows? Shouldn't we simply advise users to use some key remapping tool if they want this feature so badly?