From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: menu-bar: disable items when no frame visible Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:06:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <708F3D2D-A87C-4F80-BC27-171D82653F4D@gmail.com> <069BF3EB-C5E4-4042-91E9-0DFB37C58E99@gmail.com> <87u0d3cu9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87y82b7evb.fsf@jurta.org> <9F80EEEC-3EDF-47B5-9837-2091650A8C5D@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135573631 1773 80.91.229.2 (26 Dec 2005 05:07:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 05:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, david.reitter@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 26 06:07:09 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqkZc-0000y4-0B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 06:07:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eqkan-0004Bb-It for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:08:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Eqkad-000492-3e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:08:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Eqkac-00048X-Ij for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:08:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eqkac-00048U-EK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:08:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EqkaN-0003G8-1h; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:07:51 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-86-121.inter.net.il [80.230.86.121]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.2-GA) with ESMTP id DFW38592 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:06:47 +0200 (IST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (rms@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48373 Archived-At: > From: "Richard M. Stallman" > CC: david.reitter@gmail.com, juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:19:31 -0500 > > The general reason to disable commands that use the minibuffer while > in the minibuffer is because recursive minibuffers got many users > confused. If you're an advanced user who won't get confused by > recursive minibuffers, you can set enable-recursive-minibuffers > to t, and enable them all the time. It goes without saying that I didn't mean to have those features _unless_ enable-recursive-minibuffers is non-nil. The problem is, even with enable-recursive-minibuffers, you cannot, e.g., visit a file from within the minibuffer. You get the error message described by Juri. You can try it like this: emacs -q M-x C-x C-f ~/.emacs RET At this point Emacs signals an error: "Cannot switch buffers in minibuffer window".