From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TTY frames parameters Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:13:06 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20080824215435.GA5236@muc.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219634003 25368 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2008 03:13:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 25 05:14:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KXSWx-00022f-Vl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:14:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33207 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXSW0-0004QO-0U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:13:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KXSVv-0004Q1-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:13:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KXSVu-0004Pp-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37873 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXSVu-0004Pm-8H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il ([84.95.2.4]:48588) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KXSVt-0007U3-Vv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.211.50]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K64001KFZMPU411@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:13:38 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20080824215435.GA5236@muc.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102923 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:54:35 +0000 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:39:37PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > There's a strange subtle difference between the first tty frame > > created on a default terminal and all the other frames: the first one > > has its `tty' association with nil cdr, while the rest have > > "/dev/tty". Is that a bug? > > What does the frame parameter tty mean? It's a device on which the terminal frame is displayed. More specifically, the calls to fwrite Emacs does to write glyphs as part of the frame's display go to a FILE stream open on this device. > I couldn't find it described in the Elisp manual. Surely _that_ is > a bug. This parameter was introduced by the mult-tty feature. None of that is documented yet, except very minimally in etc/NEWS. > On Emacs 22, there doesn't seem to be a frame-parameter called tty. On > Emacs 23, (running as emacs -Q on a Linux tty), I get the same symptoms > as you do. Thanks for testing. I hope someone will be able to answer my question.